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[Dax]

Mi limito a postare le più importanti:

- Meta knights up b is like Marth's up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.
His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don't know yet about its priority.

- Pivot cancel is still in

- ledge stalling may be impossible now? If you drop from the ledge and jump back up, you literally will just NOT grab it. It's like the ledge gains invulnerability to your grab for a certain time after you let go. DO NOT TAKE THIS OUT OF CONTEXT. I am not 100% sure I need to try it again on my 2nd go around but in my last match I basically lived on the ledge trying this out.

- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It's kind of like greninja'd shadow sneak thing except you can't time it. He feels slow, but his attacks felt like they had a good hitbox, because he's really fat and his legs stretch when he kicks. He just felt really interesting to play, but I ended up using his aerials the most because of their hit boxes.

- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.

- YOU CAN CANCEL RUN WITH SHIELD.

- Shulk has amazing spacing options because his Monado reaches so damn far

- The game still has a sense of floatiness to it that is present in brawl. It's definitely not like Melee where you drop like bricks.

- pacmans forward a is a combo like Marth except with punches (?)
his down aerial is like lucarios except he kicks like 2-3 times.

- Marth double fair is not possible. (mi auguro intenda in uno short hop)

- the ledge is DEFINITELY tougher to grab and there is no snap. Unfortunately both Marth and Shulk flip for their 2nd jump so I could not test ledge re-grabbing within a short window of time because it waits for their flip animation to finish before actually grabbing.

- there is no Melee dash dancing. It's incredibly hard to do with the circle pad but it's essentially the same thing as brawls. IE not super useful or practical.

- There is a short and small window of time after dropping from the ledge that the ledge becomes "immune" to your grab.
This has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUMP MECHANIC. It was completely individually on the character. It is not very apparent on characters with flips for 2ndary jumps, as the ledge grab action waits for the flip to finish and the window for "ledge immunity" seems to end before the flip animation does. Megaman and Ike do not have flips, and it was impossible for me to the ledge after jumping/falling off it for a period of time.


- Wolf è andato.
Fox has an alternate skin - That looks exactly like wolf
He's gray fur
Purple eye device and grayish clothing
It's the only skin that changes foxes fur
This is only a color, NOT a costume

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAvtdsiTB7o char screen (pre-release version, non necessariamente lo screen finale)

- When palutena rolls she turns invisible
Like she's teleporting

- Fast falling is pretty swift. It also has the ash 64 effect sparkle when you do the input

- DIDDY KONG CAN ONLY HAVE ONE BANANA OUT AT A TIME. PULLING FOR ANOTHER MAKES THE OTHER DISAPPEAR

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLYHN2bQtLo random vid. Falcon @ 0.35, nair (e bair?) velocizzato da Brawl, Knee laggosa

- Back Ledge Grabbing is back, Shield while running

- Shulk up b is a TWO PART combo You can choose to do the second part by inputting b again Basically he swipes up like dolphin slash If you hit b again He will do a swipe in front of him and send the opponent flying

- Captain falcon still has his knee of justice but they made HUGE landing lag =|

- Robin: When in the air, if you use the inputs for a smash attack (and you still have the magic sword available), you will do an aerial that uses the magic sword. If you just typically hit an aerial he will use the normal sword. You use up your magic sword quite quickly but it regenerates rather fast so it's not like it ruins your tempo. Very fast.

- Tipper ing with Marth seems to require your opponent to be a lot closer than ever before, it seems he won't be as much of a spacing monster as he's always been.

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[Dax]

seconda parte, in una reply separata in quanto da una fonte diversa.

Al solito, usate un pizzico di grain of salt in quanto si tratta per certi aspetti di impressioni soggettive. Soprattutto quando gente di dubbio livello parla di "combo" generalmente si scopre poi che con un minimo di DI non era una combo, tanto per fare un esempio.

edit: post removed. Fake.

[Dax]

Tamàrr Link, Alph e Diddyxie.




Wolf-Fox

[Dax]

Day 2:

DK has surprisingly little landing lag all around, most notably his bair and his dair recover really quick. His recovery strikes me as a bit nerfed given the lack of a ledge snap if he needs to go vertical. The down B slap move has kind of a ridiculous range but I think it always did? It's visible now by a "pound" visual effect.

Link - very low landing lag on his nair and bair. His boomerang only shows the whirlwind on its way back. He's much faster than brawl link. His fsmash (both parts of it) are faster. He felt good. links meteor smash on his dair is there.

Shulk - figured out his mechanic. You swap through the stances pressing b, and when you see the one you want, you simply just wait like half a second and he will stance dance automatically.

final destination, despite it's awesome new look having a questionable underbelly, is changed back to the old style collision where you will slide up the bottom to the ledge. IE NOT like brawls final destination which made me rage all the time when I first got brawl.

[IL Link]

Link ha una meteora? SIA LODATO IL SOLE!

tamarro? Lol

[Seya]

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/sep/08/...loading-screen/ no chain grab confermato

[Dax]

Ah beh, se lo dice Sakurai\Nintendo allora siamo sicuri che almeno una c'è.

Scherzi a parte, quando ho provato il gioco era impossibile farle perché ogni presa aveva del lag o mandava l'avversario lontano. Già erano rare le prese dopo le quali potevi mettere un colpo...

[Dax]

Mi aspetto il roster finale entro 48 ore.

[Dax]

aggiornamento: uscita la demo di Smash 4, è previsto il rilascio anche fuori dal Giappone. Dubito a breve, ma magari tra qualche settimana?

5 personaggi sono disponibili nella demo. Mario, Link, Pikachu, Megaman, Villager.

Come avevamo già notato io Loci e gli altri che ci avevano giocato, la DI in Smash 4 era... strana. E finora tutto, anche la demo finale, pare confermare le nostre impressioni: la DI in Smash 4 è molto, molto meno efficace. Generalmente, l'avrei vista come una non-buona notizia ma nel caso di Smash 4, in cui molti personaggi sono un po' floaty e l'hitsun non è altissimo, è probabilmente buona.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS_rV3lfSpY qui c'è una simpatica 0-67% Mario on Link, è fatta contro un CPU quindi prima di dire che è completamente legit aspetterei, ma, visto quello che ho appena detto, e visto che non è possibile spammare airdodge, pare abbastanza the real thing.

Per chi si sta chiedendo come mai Mario non rigrabba, è perché... non si può. Non potete grabbare dopo un'altra presa per un secondo.

Villager torna da dove cazzo gli pare

[Vincent46]

ok, del gioco non ho seguito nulla ma il fatto del niente regrab per un secondo + la cosa delle ledge presumo tolgano due delle cose più gay di brawl (stalling al bordo e chaingrab), quindi sono felice

[Dax]

lo stalling è possibile ma è complicato da spiegare. Per quel che ho visto, i personaggi che fanno un "flip" in aria riescono a staccarsi, fare il flip, e rigrabbarlo. Non è fast come melee però!
Altri tipo mi pare megaman che non fanno il flip invece non possono manco rigrabbarlo subito pare !

l'altra cosa ottima che è stata tolta è l'autosnapping di merda: c'è ancora, ma è moolto più piccolo, non così tanto da dire che un marth ti prende un d tilt al bordo ma nemmeno che ti appendi da 5 metri.
Almeno, nella versione 3DS, ma li ammazzo se quella per WiiU è rimasta come quella dell'E3